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Is Money for Visa a SCAAAM?

Author: sunil (---.162.219.227.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net)
Date: 03-24-05 08:31

I have come across girls from Russia who have exchanged emails with me saying how much they liked me etc. and then they ask me to send them money so they can get their travel documents ready. Is this a SCAM to get money off people like me?

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Re: Is Money for Visa a SCAAAM?

Author: tann (---.quantum.ru)
Date: 03-24-05 11:15

Tell them that you cover all expenses when they arrive to you :)

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Re: Is Money for Visa a SCAAAM?

Author: Anders301 (---.albnxr2.ras.tele.dk)
Date: 03-24-05 18:21

99,9% sure scam

Visit:
www.stop-scammers.com
www.uaprofiler.com
www.rwguide.com

And a number of other resources / forums.
They also have a guide on new-dating.com, and you can take a look at the various scammers they have found here. As it is free, you can be sure, some of them are scammers.

Do a google search on their name - even if it is a made up name, you should find it. Also, google search the email address.

But basicly - never send money to someone you dont know.

No - ok - please send money to me, then I will go to them and give them to them - I PROMISE - BELIEVE ME!!!

Do you??? Sounds conny - does it not?

But - it was a good idea to ask before you sent money. You just saved at least a few 1000 USD. Go and buy a good wine and share it with some friends.

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Re: Is Money for Visa a SCAAAM?

Author: tann (---.quantum.ru)
Date: 03-24-05 19:59

Just imagined - if all scam money was sent to you, you'd become a millionaire!

:)

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Re: Is Money for Visa a SCAAAM?

Author: sunil (---.162.219.194.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net)
Date: 03-24-05 20:50

Thanks for all the feedback.

Also I noticed that the women who ask for money often send photos in very revealing dresses, but not nude ones.

I hope I can find a decent russian girl here.

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Re: Is Money for Visa a SCAAAM?

Author: Anders301 (---.albnxr6.ras.tele.dk)
Date: 03-25-05 10:57

To Tann

A millionaire - well, I think if I got all the scammed money it would be close to one billion. I have read about ppl sending more than 5000 USD to a person they dont know. It happens every day, several times.

Another source for tracking scammers:
http://www.russian-detective.com/
http://www.russian-scam.org/
http://www.antiscam.net

To Sunil

Keep looking - some girls are good, some are bad - just like in the west! :-)

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Re: Is Money for Visa a SCAAAM?

Author: tann (---.quantum.ru)
Date: 03-25-05 14:11

Reminds me a casino game... some just cannot stop in time.
:)

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Re: Is Money for Visa a SCAAAM?

Author: Anders301 (---.albnxr4.ras.tele.dk)
Date: 03-29-05 23:57

Thought there should be an update to my list of websites.

I did not know what a goatmarket this were untill someone tried to scam me a few months ago. Appearently marriage and dating angencys are trying to rip off and anti-scam each other for any reason at all, and it is impossible to tell when you will end up in a dead end or hit a gold mine.

http://www.jimslists.com/Agencies/Ikar.htm

Is about www.stop-scammers.com

It is always a problem when an anti scammer site do not tell about who they are and what connections they have. I have not checked if it is true, but I think there is more than 60% chance for that, so I just wanted to warn you.

Also, www.uaprofiler.com has a problem according to this site:

http://www.jimslists.com/Agencies/Rulanda.htm

Again - have not checked.

Regarding both sites, I have added one scammer, and on stop-scammers.com they took the profile I had added and put her on the scammer list with what I think is a made up name.

On uaprofiler, I think they contacted new-dating.com for contact information to the originally scammed person and got his story - they investigated the story.

You decide:

http://www.stop-scammers.com/scammer.asp?profile=785
http://www.new-dating.com/profile-black.php?id=77
http://www.uaprofiler.com/profiles/profile.php?id=1524

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Re: Is Money for Visa a SCAAAM?

Author: James (---.ppco.com)
Date: 04-06-05 15:43

do not send money until you have at least met girl, and then beware. I know people that have sent money to girls that they have already met, and after they sent money, never heard from girls again. If you send money to girl you are asking to be ripped off !!! Go and meet the girl in her country - play safe !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Is Money for Visa a SCAAAM?

Author: sunil (---.162.219.133.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net)
Date: 04-06-05 20:14

You mean even after meeting, men have been scammed by the same Russian girls.

After hearing all this, I feel IS THERE ANY USE OF EVEN PURSUING THIS OPTION WHEN ONE ALREADY KNOWS A CERTAIN OUTCOME IS MOST LIKELY GOING TO HAPPEN? The answer right is 'NO'.

Why are Russian girls like that? Is being a scammer in Russia a culture thing? I mean was it common in Russia for people to be scammers, going back to last two generations? If yes, then I can understand why the children of today's generation in Russia are scammers (coz their parents taught them this). After all, children learn consciously or sub-consciously from their parents.

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Re: Is Money for Visa a SCAAAM?

Author: tann (---.quantum.ru)
Date: 04-06-05 23:33

... but I am sure you don't understand why people of two generations ago were scammers. What was the bastard who taught them to do so?! :))

Go here, meet people, only after that make your conclusion, not before. That is stupid to judge people after reading some "horrible" stories in the net.

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Re: Is Money for Visa a SCAAAM?

Author: sunil (---.162.219.133.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net)
Date: 04-06-05 23:40

Why?

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Re: Is Money for Visa a SCAAAM?

Author: sunil (---.162.90.145.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net)
Date: 04-07-05 06:55

Tan,

Who was responsible for making people scammers?

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Re: Is Money for Visa a SCAAAM?

Author: Anders301 (---.albnxr4.ras.tele.dk)
Date: 04-10-05 19:54

Sunil

Not who - what were responsible. Money - and money is the way some ppl think they can buy other ppls love. As Tan says - don't judge ppl from others bad experience. I know I gave you the rough stories about how other ppl lost a lot of money and a lot of hope and dreams too.

Here, and/or other places, your better half may be looking for you. Don't forget about the horrorstories, but dont let them affect how you look at ppl. Most ppl are good and honest. But if a "girl" says she is in love with you after 2 letters (or even in the first, like I got today), then 99.99% scam (I do believe in luck :-) ). Dont write with more than a few girls at a time - it is time consuming to keep an ongoing conversation if you have a life beside this pursue for a life partner. And dont go a long distance if you are not looking for a life partner.

Men smell rats and scams - and women smell rats and dishonesty. You have to be on even playground to connect.

Good luck Sunil - and don't give up.

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Re: Is Money for Visa a SCAAAM?

Author: Elena (---.26.sitel.com.ua)
Date: 04-11-05 13:39

I agree, Anders, even if we have some sad experience we need don't give up and only make conclusions from past that don't have the same mistake in future. Life always gives new chances, if you don't lost hope.
I think it is possible to find out from some letters if person is sincere. But better way - is to come to meet woman in person.

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Re: Is Money for Visa a SCAAAM?

Author: tann (---.quantum.ru)
Date: 04-11-05 22:44

sunil wrote:

> Who was responsible for making people scammers?

Who was responsible? Men, who sent money. If you send money, you will be responsible.
If that would be easy to earn money in a casino, people would stop working and played games. Scammers will exist while you send them easy money.

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Re: Is Money for Visa a SCAAAM?

Author: Earl (---.slsp.cox-internet.com)
Date: 04-14-05 19:18

Does not some visa companys or agencys have web sites? Which ones can be trusted? Such as in St. Petersburg, i am pursuing to get one for a lady i have come to know we have been corresponding for more than 6 months, most of the ladys i run into (money hungry ones) will not coressespond for more than a couple months because it cost them money, if people go for the long term you will find someone with a true heart. What a mess! I have given up several times on the whole idea but something tells me inside that there is someone out there for me. I will purchase a visa and tickets for someone but i will not send money to them. Maybe if i was rich i would send money and play the gambler.

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Re: Is Money for Visa a SCAAAM?

Author: tann (---.quantum.ru)
Date: 04-15-05 01:46

Earl wrote:

> ...most of the ladys i run
> into (money hungry ones) will not coressespond for more than a
> couple months because it cost them money...

Wrong sentence. Corresponding itself rather costs cents, they stop just because they realize it's a waste of time.
:)

As for the "true hearts"... Many of true hearts stop writing after month or so as soon as they realize it will never go to end. Girls talk about that. They call these guys "writers" :))

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Re: Is Money for Visa a SCAAAM?

Author: Earl (---.jbu.edu)
Date: 04-15-05 05:17

well thank you so much for you insight. Writers yike's i am some of that but through time i have come to know my heart and that is what i share. Well i mean as far as it will not provide who ever they work for money as fast as they want. Do you have any insight on Visa companys in general, web sites? i have written many women and when i say they must be another way, its good bye, ?????? are there other ways one can purchase a visa for a women via internet?

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Re: Is Money for Visa a SCAAAM?

Author: dave (---.dialup.clear.net.nz)
Date: 04-15-05 13:57

Number One rule.... Never send money to anyone you have never meet
Number 2 rule........Go and meet the lady in her country
Number 3 rule .........always follow number 1 and 2 rules

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Re: Is Money for Visa a SCAAAM?

Author: tann (---.quantum.ru)
Date: 04-15-05 19:48

dave wrote:

> Number One rule.... Never send money to anyone you have never
> meet
> Number 2 rule........Go and meet the lady in her country
> Number 3 rule .........always follow number 1 and 2 rules

Exactly :)

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Re: Is Money for Visa a SCAAAM?

Author: James (---.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net)
Date: 05-19-05 06:18

I fully agree with Tann - always visit the girl and meet her family and friends. If she does not want you to meet them, thats a red flag. There are some trusted travel agents - check out www.anti-scam.org for a list. But please do not send money directly to a girl, as there is high possibility you will never see her again. Also, before you meet girl, you should check out scammers sites, as the last thing you want to do is waste your time with a girl that just wants to meet you and spend your money.

Once you have met girl, think very very carefully before you give her money. This is how i got scammed the one and only time. But if you spend time with a girl and you see no red flags then you should be ok. If you see any red flags, get explaination, if not satisfactory then RUN !!!!!! I didnt !!!!

Oh by the way most (90% plus) of the women in eastern europe are genuine and are really looking for that special someone, its just that on the internet there are alot of scammers, and you have to be very careful. If you get any bad vibes from correspondence then walk away, if she says i need money for translation service, walk away - this is the Lugansk scam !!!

Best of luck looking for someone - best advice i can give you is to go to some site like www.anti-scam.org and look at the agencies they recommend and stick to those as well as this one. The administrator here seems to do a good job removing scammers as they appear.

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Author: Emmy (---.pp.htv.fi)
Date: 06-03-05 12:36

what "agencies" are people talking about?

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